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the mitt romney who was governor and not the mitt romney who trying to become an extreme right-winger. he's not comfortable with it. you can see the wheels turning when he's asked questions, guys. what do i say that doesn't offend the base? good lord, governor, the base was voting genz president obama no matter who is on the ballot. the compete for the rest of us. >> let me ask you about president obama. "the washington post" gave the president for pinocchios on the claim it was bush's fault. is romney missing opportunity to go after obama on his record and misstatements, stories i hear out of politico for one is he focused more on mistruths in the debates and the campaign. is that a good strategy? >> it's really one of the few arrows he has left. no question about it. he won't win in election by attacking president obama. he has to give the american people a clear and cojent plan why he's better and a better bet to take. it's always a risk when you turn away from an incumbent president. americans have shown their willingness to do so. the carter election and the first george bush ele
the mitt romney who was governor and not the mitt romney who trying to become an extreme right-winger. he's not comfortable with it. you can see the wheels turning when he's asked questions, guys. what do i say that doesn't offend the base? good lord, governor, the base was voting genz president obama no matter who is on the ballot. the compete for the rest of us. >> let me ask you about president obama. "the washington post" gave the president for pinocchios on the claim it was...
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>> romney is a strikeout. >> if we don't run chris christie, romney will be the nominee and he'll lose. >> it is a big day in the big apple. >> president obama is in new york right now. >> america wants to resolve this issue through diplomacy. >> there was president obama giving a speech. >> i accept people are going to call me awful things every day. >> then there was mitt romney. >> the few words from bill clinton can do a man a lot of good. >> if he's going to double down on that 47, that will cause difficulties. >> wait a couple of days for that bounce. >> he has no past that i can ever spot. >> i can appreciate your kind words. >> when i was a boy i used to think that becoming rich and becoming famous would make me happy. boy, was i right. >> yeah, he said that. with just 42 days until the presidential election and with a new poll showing mitt romney's path to the presidency rapidly narrowing, paul ryan is rapidly realizing that he is well on his way to becoming the next losing vice president candidate. so he is desperately trying to avoid the stench of romney. yes, the stench. th
>> romney is a strikeout. >> if we don't run chris christie, romney will be the nominee and he'll lose. >> it is a big day in the big apple. >> president obama is in new york right now. >> america wants to resolve this issue through diplomacy. >> there was president obama giving a speech. >> i accept people are going to call me awful things every day. >> then there was mitt romney. >> the few words from bill clinton can do a man a lot of...
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he is quite close to mitt romney. he knew him before -- >> how about the fact, i was going to say, how about the fact today he will speak by phone to both. a world leader doing that -- >> that's a danger for him, i have known him a long time. he is always moving forward. the danger is that he can involve himself too demonstrably in the american election this time with the kinds of statements he has been making, positions he has been taking. he is imposing himself on what the american people need to decide for themselves. >> take it in the reverse, how often, you could say in not so friendly democracies, america over the years may have gotten involved in leadership elections, but in some of the most friendly allies, how often do american presidents do that? >> they generally stand back, let the american people make a decision. in fact, at this time which is a volatile time in that part of the world, what is also striking to me is that this gives president obama cover to some degree, not just on the iran issue. >> take
he is quite close to mitt romney. he knew him before -- >> how about the fact, i was going to say, how about the fact today he will speak by phone to both. a world leader doing that -- >> that's a danger for him, i have known him a long time. he is always moving forward. the danger is that he can involve himself too demonstrably in the american election this time with the kinds of statements he has been making, positions he has been taking. he is imposing himself on what the...
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romney, ryan. romney, ryan. romney, ryan. there you go. i guess the question becomes are people pushing him into something he's not? he got good interviews in. is the trouble in part when romney tries not to be romney? >> yeah, i think it's ironic that they're saying let ryan be ryan. but throughout then tire process, we've really not been 100% clear who mitt romney is, right, because the guy who was governor of massachusetts, had he run as that guy, he would have been more like the guy we saw on "60 minutes." he's been forced to run this eternal primary where he's constantly trying to please the farthest right base of the republican party and so he isn't really being allowed to make what is supposed to be a pivot to a general election candidacy. so i think the problem really is partly that. then they've tried to pull romney into the ryan mold. they vnld allowed ryan to do what he was picked to do, which is talks on policy because they understand that would be even more unpopular than what they're putting out there right now? >> is it that
romney, ryan. romney, ryan. romney, ryan. there you go. i guess the question becomes are people pushing him into something he's not? he got good interviews in. is the trouble in part when romney tries not to be romney? >> yeah, i think it's ironic that they're saying let ryan be ryan. but throughout then tire process, we've really not been 100% clear who mitt romney is, right, because the guy who was governor of massachusetts, had he run as that guy, he would have been more like the guy...
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romney. first to iowa. president obama is 49% to mitt romney's 5%. >>> and from the columbia dispatch--this has surrogates from both parties sangled today over who's better equipped to guide the economy over the next four years. >> the president hay has created 4 million new manufacturing jobs. he says he's going to reduce the debt. doesn't say how' goegsing to do it. let's be fair here, governor romney has laid out a vision and a direction for this country. let's hold the president to the same standard as well. >> first of all, we have a deficit plan, it's got health care savings. romney doesn't have a deficit plan. he's got a plan to cut taxes for millionaires and billionaires. he's got a 5 trilli$5 trillion. -- another $2 trillion in defense spending. >> just three days into the first presidential debate, meanwhile mitt romney is off to the trail. we have two reports, we begin with nbc's peter alexander, he's with the romney campaign in boston, with a good morning to you, peter. what are y
romney. first to iowa. president obama is 49% to mitt romney's 5%. >>> and from the columbia dispatch--this has surrogates from both parties sangled today over who's better equipped to guide the economy over the next four years. >> the president hay has created 4 million new manufacturing jobs. he says he's going to reduce the debt. doesn't say how' goegsing to do it. let's be fair here, governor romney has laid out a vision and a direction for this country. let's hold the...
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romney will repeal that. ryan says that too. it looked to me like that was working, that they were actually managing to sort of get to the president's left on medicare and attack him and say the president's going to cut your medicare, we're going to protect it. i don't know why it's not still working. >> here's why. so they've decided they're going to pick this fight on medicare. it's a bizarre fight they picked for the reasons you named. clearly they're the party that wants to shrink the entitlement state. you have to see what they say behind closed doors or read conservative blogs. we know what the conservative apparatus in the republican party thinks about the entitlement state. they want to say we're going to be more extravagant to you seniors. they made the mistake of picking a fight on an issue that the democrats have reputational capital built up over time. it's not sustainable. if democrats went out and convinced them that they were the party that would give tax cuts to the rich, it would not be possible. it's not credib
romney will repeal that. ryan says that too. it looked to me like that was working, that they were actually managing to sort of get to the president's left on medicare and attack him and say the president's going to cut your medicare, we're going to protect it. i don't know why it's not still working. >> here's why. so they've decided they're going to pick this fight on medicare. it's a bizarre fight they picked for the reasons you named. clearly they're the party that wants to shrink the...
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earlier governor romney tried cozying up to bill clinton, but clinton says romney's caught on camera moment will be a problem for romney in the october debates. >> if he's going to double down on that 47%, that will cause difficulties because we now know that the overwhelming number of those people work and have children. >> over a week later, and that secret tape still hurts. joining me now is msnbc contributor and author megan mccain and democratic strategist tad devine, senior adviser for kerry and gore campaigns. thank you for joining us. >> good to be here. >> tad, let me start with you. it's been over a week since the tape came out. the president, joe biden, now bill clinton are all still hammering. how damaging is this 47% comment? >> reverend, i think it was terribly damaging. what happened with that tape was after months and months of the obama campaign in battleground state after state, running ads and telling people that mitt romney doesn't care about them, mitt romney came forward himself and confirmed those attacks. there's nothing more devastating and nothing more power
earlier governor romney tried cozying up to bill clinton, but clinton says romney's caught on camera moment will be a problem for romney in the october debates. >> if he's going to double down on that 47%, that will cause difficulties because we now know that the overwhelming number of those people work and have children. >> over a week later, and that secret tape still hurts. joining me now is msnbc contributor and author megan mccain and democratic strategist tad devine, senior...
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so did mitt romney. seeing what performances are like, i think the stakes are very high for both men. that's not his problem. his problem is that he is able to have one good day, not two good days. he needs to have a solid wednesday and be solid thursday, friday. otherwise it looks like another fluke. you prepared for one performance but your campaign is in disarray. you don't have answers to questions. you can't give details to policies. but you're making big promises. that's not going to work for governor romney. even if he has a good performance. i think with president obama, the challenge for him to, again, short answers kwb to the point. stay personable as we've seen him on the campaign trail. and call romney out on all the untruths, i'll say that kindly, that we've heard on the campaign trail. >> the one thing, perry, as karen talks about the romney campaign may have taken one step forward then two steps back at times. october certainly needs to be a stronger month than the last three months we've
so did mitt romney. seeing what performances are like, i think the stakes are very high for both men. that's not his problem. his problem is that he is able to have one good day, not two good days. he needs to have a solid wednesday and be solid thursday, friday. otherwise it looks like another fluke. you prepared for one performance but your campaign is in disarray. you don't have answers to questions. you can't give details to policies. but you're making big promises. that's not going to work...
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romney and mr. ryan are saying it's the president who are into social divisiveness. they are the ones splitting the countries between the have and have nots. they're the one playing the wealth disparity card. >> well, quite the opposite. you know i was a psychologist before i was a political person. in psychology we say that sometimes if someone's got a problem, that they tend to talk about it in ways that is very contradictory to their own feelings. the fact is that mitt romney said 47% of the american people basically are free-loaders parasites. he was talking about good hard working, salt of the earth, ohioans, americans. that started a narrative that built up over a series of months as we watched this man and watched this campaign. and that video confirmed for many ohioans exactly what they were thinking this man may be like. and he can say all he wants to say about class warfare, but he's the one waging it. you know he pays 14.1% in federal income tax. the average ohioan pays more than 20% in f
romney and mr. ryan are saying it's the president who are into social divisiveness. they are the ones splitting the countries between the have and have nots. they're the one playing the wealth disparity card. >> well, quite the opposite. you know i was a psychologist before i was a political person. in psychology we say that sometimes if someone's got a problem, that they tend to talk about it in ways that is very contradictory to their own feelings. the fact is that mitt romney said 47%...
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mitt romney isn't succeeding as a solo act so the romney campaign is putting mitt romney and paul ryan on the campaign trail together, sort of a karaoke duet, i guess. what does it tell you the big draw on the republican ticket is the number two guy? let me finish tonight with how the democratic party has a huge opportunity to grow after this election. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> now that there's no chance of a republican replacing todd akin in the missouri senate race, claire mccaskill is hitting akin hard for his we'll be right back. >>> there's an attempt on the right wing to delegitimatize president obama, an attempt to declare our president not really an american. >> i would like to have him show his birth certificate. >> i wish this president would learn how to how to be an american. >> no one's asked for my birth certificate. >> this talk and false welfare ads is what president obama faces in the next 41 days. alex wagner host of "now" on msnbc and eugene robinson is a pulitzer prize winning columnist for "the washington post." thanks for joining us tonight.
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mitt romney isn't succeeding as a solo act so the romney campaign is putting mitt romney and paul ryan on the campaign trail toeshgs a karaoke duet, i guess. what does it tell you the big draw on the republican ticket is the number two guy? let me finish tonight with how the democratic party has a huge opportunity to grow after this election. this is "hardball," the place for politics. by working people. the economy needs manufacturing. machines, tools, people making stuff. companies have to invest in making things. infrastructure, construction, production. we need it now more than ever. chevron's putting more than $8 billion dollars back in the u.s. economy this year. in pipes, cement, steel, jobs, energy. we need to get the wheels turning. i'm proud of that. making real things... for real. ...that make a real difference. ♪ >>> now that there's no chance of a republican replacing todd akin in the missouri senate race, claire mccaskill is hitting akin hard for his comment, legitimate rape, in an ad. >> todd akin in his own words. on march 18, 2011, todd akin said he didn't like socia
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romney/ryan, romney/ryan, there we go. that's great. >> he's having to introduce them there to his name and his running mate's name. >> they were getting the hang of it. >> it was good. it's a bit of a problem though, isn't it, because some of his advisers are actually saying their internal polling shows that they're still in this fight and yet all the published polling that we have access to suggests that things are slipping away. >> that's right. and a lot has been made, you know, we have the debates coming up, they could be pivotal and they certainly could be but we've heard that in the past. his vice presidential pick was supposed to dang the dynamics. his speech at the rnc was supposed to change the dynamics. all these pivot points have actually gone in the other direction. i think voters are getting locked into their decision ahead of the debates. it's hard to imagine mitt romney having such a stellar debate performance that he could really turn this thing around. >> are you sensing there's almost a rhythm of failure
romney/ryan, romney/ryan, there we go. that's great. >> he's having to introduce them there to his name and his running mate's name. >> they were getting the hang of it. >> it was good. it's a bit of a problem though, isn't it, because some of his advisers are actually saying their internal polling shows that they're still in this fight and yet all the published polling that we have access to suggests that things are slipping away. >> that's right. and a lot has been...
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romney, 1 million. but not all of these followers are real, says social media company status people. their engine finds that just 24% of obama followers are good, and 55% of romney's in these little areas here. now, still the good ratio when you look at it with obama is 7x, if you were to do the math there. either way romney has an opportunity here, says an article entitled "is romney homsocial?" 57% to 80% of these users dominated by women. and romney's early social media efforts here, chris, were not as aggressive as obama's. >> i guess it's too early. we've never had a campaign like this, so we'll see if these kinds of numbers actually have any relationship to getting people to the polls. >> the first social media campaign, they say. right? >> fascinating stuff. thank you so much, richard. >>> and that does wrap up this hour of "jansing & co." thomas roberts is up next. >> good morning. mitt romney sets aside fund-raising for actual campaigning. with only 43 days left, can romney reveal his true core
romney, 1 million. but not all of these followers are real, says social media company status people. their engine finds that just 24% of obama followers are good, and 55% of romney's in these little areas here. now, still the good ratio when you look at it with obama is 7x, if you were to do the math there. either way romney has an opportunity here, says an article entitled "is romney homsocial?" 57% to 80% of these users dominated by women. and romney's early social media efforts...
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romney and ryan were in this thing together. well, they're not. romney is dying. he can't stand being tied to ryan, and all that budget cutting baggage of his. for his part, ryan is feeling the taint of having a running mate who is unwilling to stand with him, unwilling to be his kind of politician. a conviction politician. so trouble in paradise. mitt's dying to be single again, so is ryan. we all know that politics makes strange bedfellows but the word is out this pair, romney and ryan, are sleeping in separate rooms. i'm joined by msnbc political analyst howard fineman and joy joy-ann reid, managing editor of thegrio.com. more polling data that shows mitt romney trailing. according to a new fox news poll, president obama leads romney by five points among likely voters nationwide. 48% to 43%. catch that, the fox poll. highly significant there. let's go right now to howard on this question. it looks to me like this divorce papers are pretty much out there right now. all that you hear now is romney doesn't really want to be stuc
romney and ryan were in this thing together. well, they're not. romney is dying. he can't stand being tied to ryan, and all that budget cutting baggage of his. for his part, ryan is feeling the taint of having a running mate who is unwilling to stand with him, unwilling to be his kind of politician. a conviction politician. so trouble in paradise. mitt's dying to be single again, so is ryan. we all know that politics makes strange bedfellows but the word is out this pair, romney and ryan, are...
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romney, mr. turzai, mr. metcalfe and their friends will attempt to create confusion and chaos now that we beat this thing back. so we're going to be just as vigorous now as we have been. your prior guest on the prior segment talked about anger. let me tell you something, chris, there's a lot of angry voters in pennsylvania. mitt romney and todd corbett for this chicanery. they're going to have a conversation with them at the polls on november the 6th. >> let me ask you, kathy, why did this creep up on so many people? i have been making some noise about it, but this is like a multistate thing, something like 20 or 30 states involved in this, all basically pushed by the republicans, all pushed to stamping down on the chance of minority people and older people to vote. clearly partisan and ethnic in nature. here we are, i may be the only one on national television yelling about this thing, but it just seems -- as bill clinton said beautifully, it's blatant and yet nobody's been raising hell about it. >> that's
romney, mr. turzai, mr. metcalfe and their friends will attempt to create confusion and chaos now that we beat this thing back. so we're going to be just as vigorous now as we have been. your prior guest on the prior segment talked about anger. let me tell you something, chris, there's a lot of angry voters in pennsylvania. mitt romney and todd corbett for this chicanery. they're going to have a conversation with them at the polls on november the 6th. >> let me ask you, kathy, why did...
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romney, that's not helping. you better finish the thought. >> i have all the confidence in the world in his ability, in his decisiveness, in his leadership skills, in his understanding of the economy, in his understanding of what's missing right now in the economy, you know, the pieces that are missing to get this jump started. so for me i think it would be the emotional part of it. >> right. he's capable, decisive, and emotionally troubled? well, that is an october surprise. let's get right to our panel this afternoon. with us from washington, msnbc political analyst karen finney, who is a democratic strategist. also julian epstein, who is a democratic strategist, and here in new york msnbc political analyst professor michael eric dyson. professor dyson, mitt romney's wife says she's concerned about his mental health. paul ryan says he's inarticulate. if he can't think straight and he can't speak properly, is mitt romney george bush in disguise? >> i'll tell what you. i want to give you the baseline, i don't ha
romney, that's not helping. you better finish the thought. >> i have all the confidence in the world in his ability, in his decisiveness, in his leadership skills, in his understanding of the economy, in his understanding of what's missing right now in the economy, you know, the pieces that are missing to get this jump started. so for me i think it would be the emotional part of it. >> right. he's capable, decisive, and emotionally troubled? well, that is an october surprise. let's...
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obviously mitt romney is a good debater. he made it through the primaries and has had practice this year. barack obama, debating is not his greatest strength. he's a wonderful orator and has been a successful president. i think he'll do a good job, but i think it's going to be a competitive debate. >> do you think it's going to make a big difference for mitt romney to really show himself and really for these two men to be on the same stage? >> well, that helps mitt romney to be on the same stage with the president of the united states. there's no doubt. it always helps the challenger with the incumbent. the problem, though, is i think what susan pointed out and dana pointed out is that we really don't know who mitt romney is. so the question is which mitt romney will appear on the debate stage? and that will determine whether people will believe whatever candidate shows up at that time. >> all right. dana, real fast, though, president obama has a lot on his agenda. starting tomorrow, he's going to be here in new york city. a
obviously mitt romney is a good debater. he made it through the primaries and has had practice this year. barack obama, debating is not his greatest strength. he's a wonderful orator and has been a successful president. i think he'll do a good job, but i think it's going to be a competitive debate. >> do you think it's going to make a big difference for mitt romney to really show himself and really for these two men to be on the same stage? >> well, that helps mitt romney to be on...
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romney does. how does romney record sell out when his own running mate has said that this is what people do? >> in fairness to mr. romney, he also hides his money in other places like the bahamas or switzerland. you know, what seems to be the larger indictment here is not that romney is not paying his fair share but under our absurd tax code, that's what people consider to be fair. it's not that something illegal happened here. the scandal is entirely illegal. in fact, it look like he paid more tacks than he had to so his real rate wouldn't be 11%. and then you have him on record defending the way -- >> that's the point, dana. certainly i wasn't saying that he was doing something that was illegal. >> exactly. right. >> when he says it's fair, that he's paying a lower rate than 60% of americans and even though his wealth makes him part of the 0.0025% s. it fair? it's legal but is it fair? >> exactly. >> and he's advocating this. >> right. and that is sort of the definition of scandal in washington.
romney does. how does romney record sell out when his own running mate has said that this is what people do? >> in fairness to mr. romney, he also hides his money in other places like the bahamas or switzerland. you know, what seems to be the larger indictment here is not that romney is not paying his fair share but under our absurd tax code, that's what people consider to be fair. it's not that something illegal happened here. the scandal is entirely illegal. in fact, it look like he...
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mitt romney isn't succeeding as a solo act so the romney campaign is putting mitt romney and paul ryan on the campaign trail together, sort of a karaoke duet, i guess. what does it tell you the big draw on the republican ticket is the number two guy? let me finish tonight with how the democratic party has a huge opportunity to grow after this election. this is "hardball," the place for politics. business pro. governor of getting it done. you know how to dance... with a deadline. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. this is awesome. [ male announcer ] yes, it is, business pro. yes, it is. go national. go like a pro. so it can feel like you're using nothing at all. but neosporin® eczema essentials™ is different. its multi-action formula restores visibly healthier skin in 3 days. neosporin® eczema essentials™. >>> now that there's no chance of a republican replacing todd akin in the missouri senate race, claire mccaskill is hitting akin hard for hi
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mitt romney versus mitt romney. oh. and president obama will be there too. this conundrum of what we'll call the paradox of the mittens, dates back to 1994 when senator ted kennedy dropped this debate heat rock. >> on the question of the choice issue, i have supported the row v raid wade, i am pro choice, my opponent is multiple choice. >> so which bubble will the multiple choice candidate fill in on tomorrow night's test? which mitt will triumph on stage. even members of the conservative establishment aren't sure. bill o'reilly conceded mitt romney is a mystery man. >> people don't really know who mitt romney is. the pressure is on the governor. he has to come across as a regular guy, which i'm not sure he can do. >> true to form romney's policies remain veiled in the same cloud of mystery. his running mate paul ryan refused to say how much their tax cut would cost alleging it would take too long to get into all the math. congressman ryan defended that dodge yesterday. >> i didn't want to get into all the math of this because everybody would start changing
mitt romney versus mitt romney. oh. and president obama will be there too. this conundrum of what we'll call the paradox of the mittens, dates back to 1994 when senator ted kennedy dropped this debate heat rock. >> on the question of the choice issue, i have supported the row v raid wade, i am pro choice, my opponent is multiple choice. >> so which bubble will the multiple choice candidate fill in on tomorrow night's test? which mitt will triumph on stage. even members of the...
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romney, ryan, romney, ryan. there we go. >> as the hour that will determine his destiny grows closer, mitt romney must find clear answers. >> the first ground rule i would say to mitt is be who you are. >> i'm running for office for pete sake. i can't have illegals. >> it's a mistake to somehow be clever. >> i'm not a bomb thrower. rhetorically or literally. >> i'm mitt romney, and that's also my first name. >> he has to be prepared to defend himself as the moderator and obama will come after him. >> the way the rules work here i get 60 seconds. anderson -- >> you knew you had illegal -- >> would you please wait. >> with mitt romney, is there ever such a thing as a crisis averted? >> i think as people look at his record and imagine him debating obama, obama is going to laugh at him. >> you ask me an entirely different question. >> now alex is out today on vacation on the planet of jupiter but did leave behind a special gift we on behalf of alex wagner want to congratulate ben smith on reaching 100,000 twitter fo
romney, ryan, romney, ryan. there we go. >> as the hour that will determine his destiny grows closer, mitt romney must find clear answers. >> the first ground rule i would say to mitt is be who you are. >> i'm running for office for pete sake. i can't have illegals. >> it's a mistake to somehow be clever. >> i'm not a bomb thrower. rhetorically or literally. >> i'm mitt romney, and that's also my first name. >> he has to be prepared to defend himself as...
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anyway, this may explain why romney is in trouble because people out there think his party is out of it. joining me is howard fineman and joe klein of the times. let's take a look at the two polls. the two key states ohio and florida. according to "the washington post," president obama has a four-point lead over mitt romney in florida. four points down there in a very tough state. 51%,/47% for obama. in ohio, the president's lead is a more comfortable eight points. 52/44. that's dramatic. we have joining us -- let's take a look at that for a minute. howard fineman, thank you for joining us, and joe klein of "time" magazine. thank you. it strikes me the numbers i put out tonight, and i'm going to get all through them, shows a party obliterated to reality. she don't seem to watch the news. don't seem to know the huge fight that went on when we realized there was no weapons of mass destruction in iraq. that was the whole reality we lived in, the disillusionment on the right, the confusion in the middle, the anger on the left. they didn't even experience that period of time? >> well, chr
anyway, this may explain why romney is in trouble because people out there think his party is out of it. joining me is howard fineman and joe klein of the times. let's take a look at the two polls. the two key states ohio and florida. according to "the washington post," president obama has a four-point lead over mitt romney in florida. four points down there in a very tough state. 51%,/47% for obama. in ohio, the president's lead is a more comfortable eight points. 52/44. that's...
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romney senior adviser in a new memo says voters will get to know more about the specifics of the romney plan and how it will benefit them. on sunday it was the latest survey to show him trailing by five or more points in the buckeye state. here's the reality for the gop ticket in the state. you could argue obama is in a stronger position in north carolina, his battleground state, than romney is in ohio. a state that every republican presidential nominee has won. this morning president romney has a new ad in ohio. some wouldn't sound out of place if he were a labor leader. >> fewer americans are working today than when president obama took office. it doesn't have to be this way, if obama would stand up to china. >> china bashing always works in primary campaigns and general election campaigns in places like ohio. the obama campaign is countering in its own new add. the first in the campaign trying to use can 47% comment against him. >> mitt romney attacked 47% of americans who pay no income tax. including veterans, elderly, the disabled. >> my job is not to worry about those people. sfwl
romney senior adviser in a new memo says voters will get to know more about the specifics of the romney plan and how it will benefit them. on sunday it was the latest survey to show him trailing by five or more points in the buckeye state. here's the reality for the gop ticket in the state. you could argue obama is in a stronger position in north carolina, his battleground state, than romney is in ohio. a state that every republican presidential nominee has won. this morning president romney...
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romney. gop nevada governor says about romney's 47% comment, quote, i don't agree with it. there's a lot of folks that i'm working extremely hard to get them unemployment and until they are employed, there are many services that are going to be needed. this is senator sandoval, a republican. people are understanding even in his own party how devastating this 47% tape you surfaced is and the president has it on an ad. >> people who conduct focus groups tell me that independent voters learned very quickly on their own about the 47% remark and focus groups said they brought it up on their own without being prompted and many have said that's reason enough for them to no longer consider voting for mitt romney and even some republicans in the margin have had similar reactions. looking at what the romney campaign has done the last few days and that ad they put out yesterday or the day before in which romney says, you know, the president is a good guy that cares about the poor and middle class, just
romney. gop nevada governor says about romney's 47% comment, quote, i don't agree with it. there's a lot of folks that i'm working extremely hard to get them unemployment and until they are employed, there are many services that are going to be needed. this is senator sandoval, a republican. people are understanding even in his own party how devastating this 47% tape you surfaced is and the president has it on an ad. >> people who conduct focus groups tell me that independent voters...
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who has the most to lose, president obama or governor romney? >> certainly governor romney. the president ea's ahead. he's a good debater. this whole setting expectations by his team is very silly. he hasn't debated in a campaign recently, he's debated plenty. he knows hows to keep his cool on a national stage. the governor needs to turn the expectations around, and that's the problem he's having right now. he's got a lot of people saying, the debate's really going to change everything for him. it's his last chance. donors are going to go away if he doesn't do well. he's going to lose the support of establishment republicans who will start giving their money to senate candidates instead. it's a tremendous amount of pressure. so he's really got the expectations game that he's got to fulfill, and we'll see how he does. >> anne, this praise of mitt romney about an anecdote of being abandoned on a boat his hi grandkids. take a look and take a listen. >> i said, who's going to grab the rope? and i looked up, and there was mitt romney. so he pull ed me in, tied up th boat for me,
who has the most to lose, president obama or governor romney? >> certainly governor romney. the president ea's ahead. he's a good debater. this whole setting expectations by his team is very silly. he hasn't debated in a campaign recently, he's debated plenty. he knows hows to keep his cool on a national stage. the governor needs to turn the expectations around, and that's the problem he's having right now. he's got a lot of people saying, the debate's really going to change everything...
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he'll stand in as mitt romney. one thing we're reporting is both sides trying to lower expectations heading into the debate on wednesday, which is key for both candidates, alex. >> for themselves and increasing them for the other guy. that's what they're doing right now. thank you so much. let's bring in the political power panel. jonathan kapart, and chris cofinus and jackie gingrich kushman, author and daughter of newt gingrich and former adviser to her father's presidential campaign. welcome to the throuee of you. five days is all mitt romney has before the debate. the politico article everybody is talking about today say this isn't the chair or ho hum convention or the leaked video or distorted polls or the message or mormonism. it's mitt. does he have enough time for a real game change? >> you know, five days before the first debate, 40 days before election day people go around the country already are starting to vote early voting in a bunch of states across the country. it's unclear whether there's enough tim
he'll stand in as mitt romney. one thing we're reporting is both sides trying to lower expectations heading into the debate on wednesday, which is key for both candidates, alex. >> for themselves and increasing them for the other guy. that's what they're doing right now. thank you so much. let's bring in the political power panel. jonathan kapart, and chris cofinus and jackie gingrich kushman, author and daughter of newt gingrich and former adviser to her father's presidential campaign....
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romney is a pretty good debater. whoever in the clip said there that romney has had 20 or whatever it is recent debates, that's true. during the primaries when romney needed to deliver a big knockout punch to newt gingrich and to rick perry, he managed to do it, and he did it very aggressively. so he knows what he's doing up there. obama needs to be on his toes. you know, i just think he can anticipate most of what romney is going to say, but he needs to have a few zingers of his own to make sure he gets his share of sound bites in the newscasts that follow. >> based on previous debate performances, how would you characterize governor romney's style versus the president's style? >> romney is good on the attack, i think. as i just indicated, i mean, when he needed to flash the knife against rick perry in that one debate i'm particularly thinking of, he really did it. he's good at that, and he's not going to back down. you know, a lot of this also comes down to interpersonal dynamics and how they play off each other an
romney is a pretty good debater. whoever in the clip said there that romney has had 20 or whatever it is recent debates, that's true. during the primaries when romney needed to deliver a big knockout punch to newt gingrich and to rick perry, he managed to do it, and he did it very aggressively. so he knows what he's doing up there. obama needs to be on his toes. you know, i just think he can anticipate most of what romney is going to say, but he needs to have a few zingers of his own to make...
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romney referring to 47% of americans as victims. interview last night with "60 minutes" romney was asked about his comments on that video and about whether his campaign was in need of a little repair. >> a lot of republicans would like to know a lot of your donors would like to know how do you turn this thing around? >> well it doesn't need a turn around. we have a campaign which is tied with an incumbent president of the united states. i've got a very effective campaign that's doing a very good job but not everything i say is elegant. i want to make it very clear, i want to help 100% of the american people. >> republican governor scott walker meanwhile of wisconsin, said he'd like romney's campaign to recapture the same energy it had after paul ryan was first announced as the running mate. >> i want to see more passion. certainly in part it is a referendum on this president there is no doubt. but i think in most americans there's a lot of independent swing voters they want to know what's wrong with this president, but they want to
romney referring to 47% of americans as victims. interview last night with "60 minutes" romney was asked about his comments on that video and about whether his campaign was in need of a little repair. >> a lot of republicans would like to know a lot of your donors would like to know how do you turn this thing around? >> well it doesn't need a turn around. we have a campaign which is tied with an incumbent president of the united states. i've got a very effective campaign...
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romney, ryan. romney, ryan. romney, ryan. >> okay, now, you'll notice in both clips mitt looks just as goofy which caused me to react. some people heard romney. other people heard ryan. our clip from nbc, unfiltered, we ran it. politico heard ryan as well, and they report it had that way around 5:30 the afternoon of the event, which was what our staff followed. later "the new york times" wrote that the crowd was chanting "romney," then they followed with a correction that our staff read overnight saying kind of hard to follow what it was. this was among the chee-tos brigade as to whether i would vote for mitt romney, is trying to throw the election by filtering a tape and cracking a joke. really, guys? your conspiracy theories are getting out of hand, the poll con spercy, the fox news to throw the election for barack obama? it's getting out of hand. like this two-second frenzy is just silly. conservative blogger jazz shawl for hotair. too many people who are ostensibly fighting for the conservative cause have ch
romney, ryan. romney, ryan. romney, ryan. >> okay, now, you'll notice in both clips mitt looks just as goofy which caused me to react. some people heard romney. other people heard ryan. our clip from nbc, unfiltered, we ran it. politico heard ryan as well, and they report it had that way around 5:30 the afternoon of the event, which was what our staff followed. later "the new york times" wrote that the crowd was chanting "romney," then they followed with a correction...
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mitt romney, a hypocrite. people see that gaffe. it is not that he is like ted kennedy said, he is not pro-choice. he is multiple choice. >> we are all political junkies but as ia great marketing tool. m marketing, you can just lie over and over and over. have enough money to lie and people will start believing it is true. >> frito-lay mastered this. i don't believe i can only eat one potato chip. that's where citizens united is a powerful tool. you can just lie, lie, lie. for example, this lie about the $719 billion the president is taking away from medicare beneficiaries -- >> it also feels like -- >> just keep saying it and it will be true. >> in addition to dishonesty and this flip-flopping and apparently lack of awareness about technology, it also feels like romney tends to move towards wherever he thinks there is power. i was just blown away. there is this moment where in a new web ad that the governor has where he does a cuddling up to the president that i want us to look at real quickly. >> president obama and i both care wi
mitt romney, a hypocrite. people see that gaffe. it is not that he is like ted kennedy said, he is not pro-choice. he is multiple choice. >> we are all political junkies but as ia great marketing tool. m marketing, you can just lie over and over and over. have enough money to lie and people will start believing it is true. >> frito-lay mastered this. i don't believe i can only eat one potato chip. that's where citizens united is a powerful tool. you can just lie, lie, lie. for...
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so mitt romney's comments about the 47%. they go straight to the electorate that this guy is an arrogant condescending pollute cra carat. while i think it's an attack that plays well to the base, i don't think it's going to have much res nens in the middle. >> we'll see. way amount to bring our guest amy parns in. she's a white house correspondent on the hill. amy, what did you hear today. >> well, we heard two different things today. he wants to take the long view and he wants patience. think that's something he wanted to express going forward in the middle east. >> and also i want to bring a quote to your attention. helene cooper and robert worth have a piece in "the new york times" that examines the president's tough test with the arab spring. they write bold words and support for democratic aspirations are not enough to engender good will in this region, especially not when hampered by america's own national security interests. how much of what's actually said at the u.n., amie, you know, changes foreign policy? >> i don
so mitt romney's comments about the 47%. they go straight to the electorate that this guy is an arrogant condescending pollute cra carat. while i think it's an attack that plays well to the base, i don't think it's going to have much res nens in the middle. >> we'll see. way amount to bring our guest amy parns in. she's a white house correspondent on the hill. amy, what did you hear today. >> well, we heard two different things today. he wants to take the long view and he wants...
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the romney campaign understands where they stand. they've got to refocus and drive home the basic questions that should drive this campaign. the president has some advantages in the polls today. he has one disadvantage going forward which i would simply call reality. we got the august family income report out the other day shows that family income declined again. chairman bernanke and the fed told us last week absent action we're headed toward another recession. that reality that we have to drive home to convince people that they, indeed, do need to make a change in course. >> housing starts up and stock market up, so there's a well effect that people seem to be feeling and people in the polls feeling better about the economy for one reason or another. >> consumer confidence up as well as the two things you cited, andrea. the problem is, you've been focusing mostly on ohio. what i think is the most devastating in "the new york times" poll, is if it's true that mitt romney is nine points behind, that's the ball game. you cannot lose p
the romney campaign understands where they stand. they've got to refocus and drive home the basic questions that should drive this campaign. the president has some advantages in the polls today. he has one disadvantage going forward which i would simply call reality. we got the august family income report out the other day shows that family income declined again. chairman bernanke and the fed told us last week absent action we're headed toward another recession. that reality that we have to...
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yesterday, showing romney down 8. ohio has been a problem for romney since the primaries when of all the midwestern states it with us the closest one where rick santorum nearly pulled off an upset. it's certainly the toughest in the badleground. the problem for romney is if he concedes ohio to obama, the president is simile one state away from a win. it's not a florida or virginia. he's a wisconsin away, a nevada away. that's the real problem here. the romney campaign needs ohio back. like this line yesterday, they tried to hammer obama on taxes. take a listen. >> he's got one new idea. i admit this. he has one thing he did not do in his first four years he said he's going to do in the next four years which is to raise taxes. is there anybody who thinks raising taxes will help grow the economy? >> no. >> ryan's expression back there when he looks over at portman, kind of intriguing. it would be curious what a thought bubble would be going on over there. but it's a little bit of a change for romney. he had often been a
yesterday, showing romney down 8. ohio has been a problem for romney since the primaries when of all the midwestern states it with us the closest one where rick santorum nearly pulled off an upset. it's certainly the toughest in the badleground. the problem for romney is if he concedes ohio to obama, the president is simile one state away from a win. it's not a florida or virginia. he's a wisconsin away, a nevada away. that's the real problem here. the romney campaign needs ohio back. like this...
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romney, it's not -- of course it's not insurmountable, but the pressure's on romney to win. >> so romney has a challenge on his hands for sure. mark halperin, leading into the debates, how, then, do you coax, cajole information out of these candidates given the scenario that chuck just laid out that actually gives you something that you can make a decision on as a voter? >> well, i think the big question for romney is performance. look at what he did on "60 minutes." he talked on the plane last night to his press corps. he's still giving the same kinds of answers, the same specificity and lack of specificity, the same failure to drive a message to put the president on the defensive. if you're a candidate behind and you have that long "60 minutes" interview where you make the choice to talk to your press corps, you've got to drive something that dominates the news rather than the same old questions about low level of performance, same questions about lack of specificity, same questions about why are you behind in all the battleground states? i don't think he did that in either of those tw
romney, it's not -- of course it's not insurmountable, but the pressure's on romney to win. >> so romney has a challenge on his hands for sure. mark halperin, leading into the debates, how, then, do you coax, cajole information out of these candidates given the scenario that chuck just laid out that actually gives you something that you can make a decision on as a voter? >> well, i think the big question for romney is performance. look at what he did on "60 minutes." he...
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>> maybe. >> what was romney -- >> i think romney is -- i think he's a sharp, on-message attacker. >> lots of practice. >> he's had six years of practice. >> so after all that -- it was like a mensa meeting -- here's what we came up with. obama's strength is that he's the president. also, surprising. yes, he is the president. romney's -- you know, with the -- being an incumbent there's strengths along with that, and as toure says he knows everything. romney's strength is he's strong on message. when he's scripted and delivering a message, he does it well. romney's weakness on the contrary is when he has to ad-lib. he's bad at ad-libbing. he failing into making ill-fated bets, saying thing he shouldn't say. obama's weakness is that he hates romney. that's a weakness, because obama does have this tendency to come off as being a little arrogant, kond sending. that can be unlikeable. let me bring in our guest, jonathan allen, senior correspondent at politico. who do you think about the list? >> i think you guys hit for "the cycle" clearly. to mix the sports metaphors. >> i like that. >> i
>> maybe. >> what was romney -- >> i think romney is -- i think he's a sharp, on-message attacker. >> lots of practice. >> he's had six years of practice. >> so after all that -- it was like a mensa meeting -- here's what we came up with. obama's strength is that he's the president. also, surprising. yes, he is the president. romney's -- you know, with the -- being an incumbent there's strengths along with that, and as toure says he knows everything. romney's...
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romney's 47% remark. you're probably not going to want to hear this, rich, but let's play it. >> [ inaudible ] they believe they are victims. they believe the government has the responsibility to care for them. who believe that they're entitled to health care, food, housing, you name it. and they will vote for this president no matter what. so my job is not to worry about those people. >> i got to tell you, we've tossed this around with my production team. and there are few who don't think that this is one of the most damning ads out there. this is one that's going to stick around. how in the world? because you put these words to faces. rich, how does the romney camp counter this? >> i think you can't. you can't counter it. you just have to try to change the discussion. i mean, four years ago when the president then senator obama made that bone-headed remark about pennsylvanians he went on to win pennsylvania in the general election. so these things have sort of a half life. and we'll see whether it still
romney's 47% remark. you're probably not going to want to hear this, rich, but let's play it. >> [ inaudible ] they believe they are victims. they believe the government has the responsibility to care for them. who believe that they're entitled to health care, food, housing, you name it. and they will vote for this president no matter what. so my job is not to worry about those people. >> i got to tell you, we've tossed this around with my production team. and there are few who...
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romney's campaign is no different. take a listen. >> if a student wants to go to a charter school or parochial or private school, the student can go and the federal money goes with the student. so that we -- we allow more choice for parents. i like every parent to have a choice and every child to have a chance. >> as for the teachers, savannah guthrie sat down with president obama and asked him about the strike in his hometown of chicago which pitted his former chief of staff against unions who support politically he does depend on. >> mitt romney said that president obama has chosen his side in this fight that you sided with the unions and last spring he said he can't talk up reform while indulging in groups that block it. >> well, you know, i think governor romney and a number of folks try to politicize the issue and do a lot of teacher bashing. when i meet teachers all across the country, they are so devoted and so dedicated to their kids. what we have tried to do is actually break through this left/right conservati
romney's campaign is no different. take a listen. >> if a student wants to go to a charter school or parochial or private school, the student can go and the federal money goes with the student. so that we -- we allow more choice for parents. i like every parent to have a choice and every child to have a chance. >> as for the teachers, savannah guthrie sat down with president obama and asked him about the strike in his hometown of chicago which pitted his former chief of staff...
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romney is reacting to that. he's said clearly i'm not going to increase the tax burden of the middle class. i think the problem is that he hasn't given any details that allow us to see a plan that does add up. as he said yesterday, he's not promising a tax cut, he's promising tax reform. the question that people have, the reason reasonable question, let's see details. >> what does mitt romney, what does the republican party define as middle class? if you look at martin feldstein's analysis, a romney guy you have to raise taxes on people making between $100,000 and $200,000 a year which is in certain cities decidedly middle class the definition of middle class is bipartisan issue. president obama defines it anyone making up to $200,000. if you're making 100,000, 150,000, 200,000 you're in the top few percentage points of this country. even in expensive places people making $150,000 have a pretty tenuous claim on being middle class when you look at the numbers. >> thank you to david leonhardt of "the new york time
romney is reacting to that. he's said clearly i'm not going to increase the tax burden of the middle class. i think the problem is that he hasn't given any details that allow us to see a plan that does add up. as he said yesterday, he's not promising a tax cut, he's promising tax reform. the question that people have, the reason reasonable question, let's see details. >> what does mitt romney, what does the republican party define as middle class? if you look at martin feldstein's...
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folks within the romney/ryan camp. the way it's unfolding in the polls is not good. there's a report that says that romney is beginning to lose donors who were shifting their money to house and senate races. what's going on here? is this starting to take its toll on the campaign? >> yes. in many ways, what mitt romney's challenge is on wednesday night is to stop the bleeding within his own party and within his own camp. absolutely. behind the scenes, republicans are very worried. some are saying so publically. if mitt romney doesn't reassure them within the first half hour of the debate, they are goners. now you're seeing already, a lot of the independent super pacs who are blessed with their own money are going elsewhere. they are desperately trying to keep a low margin in the senate. the democrats still hold it. republicans have faint hopes of taking it. they are looking at house races, at governor races, state legislatures, they are looking at anyplace to protect themselves from what, at this minute, looks like a fa
folks within the romney/ryan camp. the way it's unfolding in the polls is not good. there's a report that says that romney is beginning to lose donors who were shifting their money to house and senate races. what's going on here? is this starting to take its toll on the campaign? >> yes. in many ways, what mitt romney's challenge is on wednesday night is to stop the bleeding within his own party and within his own camp. absolutely. behind the scenes, republicans are very worried. some are...
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mitt romney paid just 14.1% in taxes last year. he keeps millions in bermuda and the cayman islands, won't release his tax returns before 2010. maybe instead of attacking others on taxes, be romney should come clean on his. >> and this weekend the president made sure to highlight what is by now quite obvious to most americans namely that mitt romney is not strapped for cash. >> and i want to keep your taxes low. but i can afford to pay a little more and mitt romney sure can afford to pay a little bit more. >> meanwhile, the 2011 returns show romney actually paid more than he needed to. romney listed a little over $4 million in charitable donations but only claimed a deduction for $2.25 million. if he had taken the full deduction citizens for tax justice calculate he would have paid less than 11% in taxes. this move conflicts with the qualification romney himself established for presidential candidates earlier this year. >> i pay all the taxes that are legally required and not a dollar more. i don't think you want someone as the can
mitt romney paid just 14.1% in taxes last year. he keeps millions in bermuda and the cayman islands, won't release his tax returns before 2010. maybe instead of attacking others on taxes, be romney should come clean on his. >> and this weekend the president made sure to highlight what is by now quite obvious to most americans namely that mitt romney is not strapped for cash. >> and i want to keep your taxes low. but i can afford to pay a little more and mitt romney sure can afford...
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are in mitt romney's camp. please them or be rationale. >> i thought as i was watching his convention speech, going along, saying he's doing a good job, this is an a-minus, b-plus speech, and then he veered into foreign policy in the last few seconds and it was scary as can be. the tone he took about iran, tone about russia, we're going to reinstate the cold war, third war in asia on the ground against iran, i was thinking of independent voters saying oh, my gosh, this guy has lost me. >> no appetite for that. >> that fits in with this broader narrative that mitt romney has tried to further about the president being weak on, you know, on american interests. you've written a book called a nation woosts, but we can't close out the show without mentioning it. the idea that somehow the president is apologizing for america -- mitt romney said it again today and jonathan, my favorite part, he was making this big point about the bigness of the american heart and bigness of the american spirit and the next line was and
are in mitt romney's camp. please them or be rationale. >> i thought as i was watching his convention speech, going along, saying he's doing a good job, this is an a-minus, b-plus speech, and then he veered into foreign policy in the last few seconds and it was scary as can be. the tone he took about iran, tone about russia, we're going to reinstate the cold war, third war in asia on the ground against iran, i was thinking of independent voters saying oh, my gosh, this guy has lost me....
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we're not seeing that from romney. >> mitt romney hasn't explained anything in the last year and a half. we don't know anything more about bain, about his faith, don't know about the touch stones that people have questions about. >> i really would -- >> is katon can the guy do this at the debate. >> he has the opportunity. he's done 20-something debates against gingrich and ron paul and others. >> raise those expectations. >> he also did them with ted kennedy, which lowered the expectations. what you're saying is the president is a well-organized campaign. all these messages aren't coming out by themselves. they're pushing them out. he has the power. si. he's invested in a ground game in 12 states. in north carolina, with early voting, 12,000 people have already voted. on gameday, 747,000 people voted for obama and a million -- for mccain. organization matters and the way the earned media is going matters. a lot of the ideas that romney is behind is the president has a pretty good campaign. >> certainly not a bad one. >> we have ground game. but he's running a pretty good campaign. >> n
we're not seeing that from romney. >> mitt romney hasn't explained anything in the last year and a half. we don't know anything more about bain, about his faith, don't know about the touch stones that people have questions about. >> i really would -- >> is katon can the guy do this at the debate. >> he has the opportunity. he's done 20-something debates against gingrich and ron paul and others. >> raise those expectations. >> he also did them with ted...
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jeffrey, i painted the picture of romney being elected. one of the justices having to leave the court for whatever reason, what the confirmation fight would look like. >> why that matters so much is basically a generation, the supreme court was dominated by moderate republicans. moderate republicans have disappeared from the supreme court like they have from the congress. the last three justices to leave, o'connor, suitor, stevens, all moderate republicans, they are gone. they have either gone to the democrat, suitor and stevens gave their seats to obama. the republicans who have been appoi appointed, john roberts reflect the modern republican party. mitt romney, to be sure, would nominate someone like cavanagh, a young judge on the d.c. circuit. very conservative. not moderate republicans. that's why one seat would make such a difference. >> and those two have very clear records as did john roberts and sam aledo. we knew exactly who they were and what they would do. the senate wasn't ready to really look at that record and make an issue.
jeffrey, i painted the picture of romney being elected. one of the justices having to leave the court for whatever reason, what the confirmation fight would look like. >> why that matters so much is basically a generation, the supreme court was dominated by moderate republicans. moderate republicans have disappeared from the supreme court like they have from the congress. the last three justices to leave, o'connor, suitor, stevens, all moderate republicans, they are gone. they have either...
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romney and ryan were in this thing together. well, they're not. romney is dying. he can't stand being tied to ryan, and all that budget cutting baggage of his. for his part, ryan is feeling the taint of having a running mate who is unwilling to stand with him, unwilling to be his kind of politician. a conviction politician. so trouble in paradise. mitt's dying to be single again, so is ryan. we all know that politics makes strange bedfellows but the word is out this pair, romney and ryan, are sleeping in separate rooms. i'm joined by msnbc political analyst howard fineman and joy ann reid, managing editor of thegrio.com. more polling data that shows mitt romney trailing. let's check the hardball scoring board. according to a new fox news poll, president obama leads romney by five points among likely voters nationwide. 48% to 43%. catch that, the fox poll. highly significant there. let's go right now to howard on this question. it looks to me like this divorce papers are pretty much out there right now. all that you hear now is r
romney and ryan were in this thing together. well, they're not. romney is dying. he can't stand being tied to ryan, and all that budget cutting baggage of his. for his part, ryan is feeling the taint of having a running mate who is unwilling to stand with him, unwilling to be his kind of politician. a conviction politician. so trouble in paradise. mitt's dying to be single again, so is ryan. we all know that politics makes strange bedfellows but the word is out this pair, romney and ryan, are...
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romney 44. chuck? >> the one thing i've heard on this poll is democrats are arguing that northern virginia was under represented in the poll. that said, i mean we're talking a difference of a point or two. if you will. and it's sort of in the range of what you hear where virginia is anywhere from two to five points so the number was not surprising. >> chuck todd, david gregory, you look at all of these polls and, david, look at the fact, in ohio, even the romney people understand they're down six, seven, eight points. and they're down right now in north carolina, a state they were ahead in and not so long ago. it makes you think that newt gingrich is right, mitt romney needs to turn in a great performance in the first debate, or else the window starts closing. >> this is very clear. you get several big opportunities as a candidate to make your mark. the announcement of your running mate. your convention. and then the debates. and the reality is that mitt romney is not seized on those first two events.
romney 44. chuck? >> the one thing i've heard on this poll is democrats are arguing that northern virginia was under represented in the poll. that said, i mean we're talking a difference of a point or two. if you will. and it's sort of in the range of what you hear where virginia is anywhere from two to five points so the number was not surprising. >> chuck todd, david gregory, you look at all of these polls and, david, look at the fact, in ohio, even the romney people understand...